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Old 16-02-2005, 13:43
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Lavasoft AdAware company cheating????

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/rema...5642~mode=flat
http://www.spywareinfo.com/articles/...on_dropped.php
http://netrn.net/spywareblog/archive...henu-kool-aid/

Weird thing are going on.......Lavasoft lost a lot of trust...
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Old 16-02-2005, 14:24
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IT appears they are all doing it

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2) Pest Patrol has Removed WhenU from its Detections Database

It also appears that Pest Patrol removed WhenU from its detections database, though the situation here is a bit murkier. With the latest definitions Pest Patrol 5 does not flag any of the WhenU Save files. Strangely enough, it does flag a number of WhenU Registry keys, but erroneously labels them as BargainBuddy, Mirar Toolbar, and PurityScan.
hummmmmmm !?

the plot thickens !?
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Old 16-02-2005, 14:30
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alternative detection software that detect/remove WHENU spy/adware ...

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Intermute SpySubtract
McAfee AntiSpyware
Microsoft Anti-Spyware
PC Tools Spyware Doctor
Spybot Search & Destroy
Sunbelt CounterSpy
Webroot Spy Sweeper
Xblock X-Cleaner
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Old 16-02-2005, 15:13
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Lavasoft does not cooperate with WhenU!
http://www.lavasoft.de/news/press/

As a result of recent rumours and speculation by members of the privacy community and the public at large, Lavasoft wants to make clear that it has not and would not collaborate with any companies that have produced content detected by Ad-Aware. Ad-Aware products are designed purely for scanning and removing of suspicious content (at the user’s discretion) and Lavasoft would not ally with adversaries under any circumstances.

WhenU was indeed removed from the database by research in the last definition file. This however was due to WhenU not scoring more than 2 TAC points at the time, 3 points being the minimum score to be included in the database. More information on the Threat Assessment Chart can be found at http://www.lavasoftnews.com/ms/tac_main.htm

The TAC report will be reviewed in more detail by our R&D department and in case it turns out that the removal was incorrect, WhenU will naturally be reintroduced to the database.
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Old 16-02-2005, 15:21
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I don't use it currently, but all that are hardly surprising.
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Looking at the TAC conditions:

(Additive points)
1 = Hard to remove

2 = System instability
2 = Undisclosed install or inadequate/concealed EULA
2 = Privacy violations

3 = Malware behavior, viral, hijack, unrequested connections etc.

It's hard to see how even the most benign "foistware" can violate just ONE 2 point condition.

I'm beginning to favour the alternative descriptions of "foistware" - as many "unwanted passenger applications" rigourously deny being spyware, while some applications you may choose to use are most definitely spyware - enable pagerank in the google toolbar and it is undeniably spyware.

Lavasoft should be guided by their users on this... WhenU is an unwanted pest - DETECT IT! whatever those half-baked conditions say
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