backup my ps2 dvd game ?

[SaleCIV]

how can i create backup of my game on ps2 if i dont have mod chip installed?

[coxy]

You can make a backup with nero but they will not play without a chip or a flip lid and boot cd's.

have a look hear at the flip lids http://www.console-direct.co.uk/

and hear for backing up http://www.psxforum.com/utilitiesps2.php

[psx_paul]

how can i create backup of my game on ps2 if i dont have mod chip installed?

You can create a backup of your legally owned PS2 original following any of the tutorials from the "Tutorial" section.

You just won't be able to boot them as you have no modchip device attached to your PS2.

I would personally advise you, if you are thinking about modding your PS2, to go for a diret boot chip such as the Messiah 2 or Apple pro, although the flip tops/no solder chips do work but involve swapping of discs in order to boot the backup game.

[ps2king]

5 easy steps to making and playing backups.

1. GET A MODCHIP!!!
2. Don't get one that you have to swap. It may seem fun at first but in the long run it gets annoying and it's a waste of time!!!
3. To backup games you need a CD/DVD burner.
4. Then you need the correct software.
5. you need a modchip to play them.

****I personally don't support the flip top****

[Peabo]

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I've read through quite a number of threads including the tutorials. I want to backup some PS2 games to protect them from my kids scratching them. I've managed to make a copy of a game using my DVD burner with its bundled software (B's Gold) which all seems fine but it won't play in the PS2. I've read that you need either a modchip or fliptop+bootdisk to make it work. Questions:

1) If I can make a direct copy why doesn't it just work? Doesn't it just copy it? I guess I just don't understand how copy protection works.

2) What dose the fliptop thing actually do - what is its purpose and how does it work?

3) You mention that using these bootdisks take a lot of disk swapping -how much? Once or twice to load a game?

4) What do the bootdisks do - load some software to counter the copy protection?

5) Do the other programs you mention (like DVD Decrypter etc) do anything different to my existing DVD copying software? Do they remvoe the copy protection as they're copying them for instance?

Any help to these basic questions would be good. Apologies if they're already somewhere in a tutorial and I've missed them.

[ps2king]

1) If I can make a direct copy why doesn't it just work? Doesn't it just copy it? I guess I just don't understand how copy protection works.

IT doesn't work because it needs to be formatted. A modchip formats the disc. What sony uses aren't DVD-R's. They are DVD roms.

2) What dose the fliptop thing actually do - what is its purpose and how does it work?

A)In a fliptop you have to use gamesharks, actions replays, or Swap Magic Boot discs. Either one. You basically switch them. First you put the GS in, then you say start game with/without codes then you switch it up. Flip tops can ruin your ps2 and there is a WHOLE procedure on installing a flip top

3) You mention that using these bootdisks take a lot of disk swapping -how much? Once or twice to load a game?

A)You can get swap magics for $19.99, im not sure if I'm allowed to post the site so if you want to know where then pm me.

4) What do the bootdisks do - load some software to counter the copy protection?

A)They just load the game. Basically booting. For the first little while you wouldn't mind booting it but then you'll get sick and tired of booting a game.

5) Do the other programs you mention (like DVD Decrypter etc) do anything different to my existing DVD copying software? Do they remvoe the copy protection as they're copying them for instance?

A)DVD decryptor does remove the copy protection. I suggest using those rather then making one by urself, because if you make a mistake and if it doesn't work then you've wasted a DVD-R which are quite expensive. Many guides are available.

Hope this helps.

[The-poacher]

Ps2king tnx m8 nice post!!

[Peabo]

Many thanx PS2 King! I'm getting the idea now but you fatally assumed a level of prior knowledge in a couple of bits of your reply that I just don't have. Please be gentle with me....

Re (1): is there any other way to format a DVD to make it behave like a DVD-ROM without using a modchip? Do any of the DVD authoring applications allow you to do that for instance?

re (2) how much danger of ruining your PS2 is there from installing a fliptop? Is it a bit of a blackart art or a simple installation procedure or...?

re (5), is DVD Decryptor a complete alternative to the fliptop +swap magic disks approach? Ie. if it gets around copy protection will it just work like a normal PS2 game will? From your comments in (1) it sounds like that still won't get around the problem that it's a DVD-R and not a DVD-ROM. Clearly if it did work then why would people use fliptops at all?

Basically I'm trying to find the simplest option given that I've already got a dvd burner.

Cheers again!

[ps2king]

Many thanx PS2 King! I'm getting the idea now but you fatally assumed a level of prior knowledge in a couple of bits of your reply that I just don't have. Please be gentle with me....

Sorry bout that.

Re (1): is there any other way to format a DVD to make it behave like a DVD-ROM without using a modchip? Do any of the DVD authoring applications allow you to do that for instance?

Fornuately there is no of formatting a DVD in doing so, but on the market you do get CD/DVD's called Slide cards. You can use those, but it very harmful to ur ps2. If you want to get those then you may want to rethink that. Rather then getting those you may as well get a 10lb sledge hammer and pound ur CD tray to bits. The slide card method involves you to put in the slide card CD and then load it and FORCE hold ur CD tray after it's done loading. That's pretty dangerous for a $300(CAD) machine. A modchip doesn't ruin ur ps2 and is very safe. I have a messiah 2 Pro and there are soooooo many things I can do with it. DivX movies, mp3 playback capabilities, mpeg movies, and much much more. I got these from patches.

re (2) how much danger of ruining your PS2 is there from installing a fliptop? Is it a bit of a blackart art or a simple installation procedure or...?

It's pretty delicate but ofcourse it can be done. Instead of installing flip top and spending $$ for GS and swapdiscs you may as well get a modchip installed!!! It's very easy and safe. IF you have soldering experience then you can do it ur self. Yes, that's right you can do it yourself! or you can get som1 who has installed chips to do it for u.

re (5), is DVD Decryptor a complete alternative to the fliptop +swap magic disks approach? Ie. if it gets around copy protection will it just work like a normal PS2 game will? From your comments in (1) it sounds like that still won't get around the problem that it's a DVD-R and not a DVD-ROM. Clearly if it did work then why would people use fliptops at all?

DVD decryptor is a software that you use when you backup ur games. Basically you need a DVD or CD burner (CD burner for CD games and DVD burner for DVD games) and then u run DVD decryptor to get thru the copy protection. You have to make an image of the game and you do so on ur hard drive b4 u write the disc. DVD decryptor is a tool, it's not a formatted disc. (I think i made a mistake in my other post. a modchip reads the game, and a GS or Swap discs format it.) yup that's the correct one. I think i said the exact opposite of that in my other post. Sorry bout dat.

Only cheap modchips require GS or Swap discs. If you like ur ps2 then get a Magic 3.1, Messiah, DMS, or apple pro. So far the best chips on the market would probably be the DMS. It stands for Devolution Memory System. It can be uploaded online or with CD's. These modchips I named don't need a GS to play. Simple browser booting. Just put the game in and it loads. the Messiah and the DMS read the backup like an orignal. VERY EFFICIENT!!! Magic just gets what it needs to get done, it does what a modchip is suppose to do.

I got my Messiah installed from a guy for $150 CAD, I know a guy that installs a magic for $100 CAD. And installation + modchip for a DMS is $175. ALl of these prices are CAD. and all of these include modchip + installation. You may be able to get it cheaper depending on where you live.

Hope this helps.

[nebraska_god]

I got the swap magic discs and I manually eject and swap when it tells me to. I insert the back up, hit X and it does not take off - it just kind of freezes, with some red around the edges.

What is the problem? My buddy burned the game on his DVD burner (it is my game, just checking this out before I spend the cash on a DVD burner). The game is ATV 2. I believe he took the ISO image and burned that to a DVD, is that the problem?

Let me know what you think and if it is worth it to spend the cash for the DVD burner.

[ps2king]

Here's what I think,

1) did you use the correct boot disc? DVD boot disc for DVD games?

2) the red border means that the game could not be read, you should get a blue border.

3) maybe your friend didn't burn it correctly, Try using the guides that psx_paul has. They are helpful. Also Laz has some good ones too. Check em out. Just head over to your friends and try it out again.

4) could you tell me the version of ur ps2 and the modchip installed. That may help.

[Peabo]

Many thanks again PS2king for your comments. Very helpful.

[ps2king]

You're Welcome. Glad I could be of some assistance.

[nebraska_god]

Answers:

1) did you use the correct boot disc? DVD boot disc for DVD games?

Yes.
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3) maybe your friend didn't burn it correctly, Try using the guides that psx_paul has. They are helpful. Also Laz has some good ones too. Check em out. Just head over to your friends and try it out again.

I don't think he did it right, I will try them.
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4) could you tell me the version of ur ps2 and the modchip installed. That may help.

I just bought the PS2, it is a SCPH-50001. I don't have a Mod-chip, I was told with the swap disks I would have to take the tray cover off and open it manually with out the PS2 knowing and I would not need a mod chip. Do I need a Mod- Chip for this method?
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One more question: What is a rip kit and how do I know when I need to use it?

Thanks for your help, I would appreciate it if you could recommend a DVD burner.

Thanks again!

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[psx_paul]

One more question: What is a rip kit and how do I know when I need to use it?

A "rip kit" is basically a small batch file that runs through the files of a PS2 DVD based game stored on your HD, and deletes/replaces larger movie/music files to strip the game down to CD-R size.

The best source for PS2 rip kits is my buddy alucard's site PS2Modz Paradise