what will edit ST1 sound files ?

[Chunter]

Hi. i know diddly squat about music formats and editors (yet) but at the moment i'm in need of a sound editor that will open St1 sound files,i want to edit the sound files of the game Grand Prix 4,but knowing which editor that is capable,if any, to use...

All help appreciated

Chunter

[MadJohn]

Well, I've never heard of ST1...it may be a special format
just used by the game, in which case you're out of luck.
I would suggest trying to open a small one( if there
are any), in a hex editor, or something as simple as NotePad.
Look at the first couple of lines, there might be something in
there that will give you an idea of what it actually is.
For example, a .wav file will have the words RIFF and
WAVE at the beginning, and you could try changing the file
extension to .wav from .st1 and see if it'll open.
Make sure you do this on a COPY of the file and not
the original. I tried this once with another game, and, even
though it let me open the file and alter it, when I put it back in
it wouldn't work right.
The only other thing I can suggest is take whatever
editor you're using, write down all the formats it supports,
and rename a copy of the file using each of the supported
extensions and see if they'll open and play right.

[Chunter]

whats the best editor for sound first of all..gimme a name and i'll try it

[jkat]

are these not atari files? so possibly being midi. try renaming to mid maybe? jkat

[Chunter]

no joy with changing to mid

whats the best sound editor i can get ?

[jkat]

wavelab 4 (steinberg), soundforge6. are u sure they are sound files and not atari image files? just did a quick search for file extensions and couldnt find anything, the nearest info i could find :- h**p://www.darkmazda.com/nesticle.shtml and they look like saved game files?? sorry. jkat

[Chunter]

i did the very same search and got the same answer...
they're definitely not save games...becuase they are in this folder D:\Grand Prix 4\sound\PC

my save games are here D:\Grand Prix 4\GPSAVES

plus they are 20 megs in size each

[jkat]

maybe they are true speech files(pit to car?) and in that case there is a player n convertor here h**p://www.dspg.com/player/dwnld.htm then maybe u could capture a live stream of audio? but thats another kettle of fish btw maybe try 'mod' extension (they are similar to midi. jkat

[Chunter]

ok just got sound forge and that true speech files...neither will play them ..let alone edit them...damn this is driving me round the bend

[jkat]

same here buddy! This is all I could find h@@p://www.icdatamaster.com/s.html some info on extensions again, but dont give up hope youve probably looked on gp4 forums like me and ive come up zero! but i think this is the direction to go n maybe email gp4??jkat btw that is unless some one else could point u in the right direction

[Chunter]

woohooooo

they're bnk files and i know they can be edited..but by what program..soundforge don't wanna know


i was looking at the wrong sounds...they're something to do with the menu..i want to edit the engine noises...and it'll be possible once i get the right editor


come on jkat help me now mate...don't let me down......

[jkat]

Ok chunter! this is what I got so far:- bnk could be either mid or wav?BNK:- Sound effects bank file (Electronic Arts)wav?
BNK:- Instrument Bank file (AdLib) mid? btw BNKs are now IBKs (confused?) post i found on nfs game forum :-h**p://design.nfscheats.com/cgi-bin/idboard.cgi?board=1&topic=322 also try searchin this forum (if u havent done so already) this is a link for the util they recommend, 'nfs wizard' utils:-
h**p://design.nfscheats.com/index.php?v=4&s=utils&sort=&order=&p=1
their is also another app called gap player, please find attached. jkat btw how the hell did u find the info chunter?

[jkat]

Ok chunter! this is what I got so far:- bnk could be either mid or wav?BNK:- Sound effects bank file (Electronic Arts)wav?
BNK:- Instrument Bank file (AdLib) mid? btw BNKs are now IBKs (confused?) post i found on nfs game forum :-h**p://design.nfscheats.com/cgi-bin/idboard.cgi?board=1&topic=322 also try searchin this forum (if u havent done so already) this is a link for the util they recommend, 'nfs wizard' utils:-
h**p://design.nfscheats.com/index.php?v=4&s=utils&sort=&order=&p=1
their is also another app called gap player, please find attached. jkat btw how the hell did u find the info chunter?

[jkat]

Ok chunter! this is what I got so far:- bnk could be either mid or wav?BNK:- Sound effects bank file (Electronic Arts)wav?
BNK:- Instrument Bank file (AdLib) mid? btw BNKs are now IBKs (confused?) post i found on nfs game forum :-h**p://design.nfscheats.com/cgi-bin/idboard.cgi?board=1&topic=322 also try searchin this forum (if u havent done so already) this is a link for the util they recommend, 'nfs wizard' utils:-
h**p://design.nfscheats.com/index.php?v=4&s=utils&sort=&order=&p=1
their is also another app called gap player, please find attached. jkat btw how the hell did u find the info chunter?

[Chunter]

i was looking in the wrong folder...ie the sound folder....

the the game sounds are actually in the samples folder..doh !

i've tried that gap thing ...doesn't work..not for me....and that damn nfs wizard you can forget ...my comp went "tits up" after using that damn thing...

i found something called sndview which is supposed to extract these bnk files but damned if i can get it to work

i was gonna put it here for you to look at but i've binned it already


i'm still trying

cheers mate